tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post2214225063033416888..comments2023-06-17T08:49:52.285-07:00Comments on Ward Gossip: 9/11 Versus The Sluts At BYU-IdahoDonna Bantahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-61196724580396693262012-08-06T17:13:09.714-07:002012-08-06T17:13:09.714-07:00Thank you for your thoughtful and sincere comment ...Thank you for your thoughtful and sincere comment on my blog, Tornado Alley.Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-74090654414473549492012-08-06T14:28:19.587-07:002012-08-06T14:28:19.587-07:00My comment is many years late....I was just today ...My comment is many years late....I was just today researching online to find a talk I had heard while on campus at BYU-Idaho. It was Sister Bednar's talk about modesty and a link came up for your blog. I have to say, I was shocked to read it. I was at BYU-I at the time and can testify to you that her talk on modesty was inspired. I find it so sad that you chose to criticize, shame and shun those who are honestly trying to better themselves and choose good things over bad. Modesty and purity like many other standards, are important. Yes, that time during 9/11 was a terribly sad and I still think of it. Though looking back, the best thing we could do as college students was to pray for the peace/comfort/healing of those victims and their families. We were college kids for heaven's sake. Would it be better to focus on the bad, cruel, and negative things that had happened? I feel Pres. and Sis. Bednar helped to keep us calm and focus on good things. One of the great things about living in our day and age is freedom. The freedom to have our own opinions, make our own choices, have a blog if we like... You may even choose to not publish my comment. It is obvious you felt that these devotionals were not appropriate during a national tragedy like this, but does it really help to berate or belittle those honestly trying to help others? Pres. and Sister Bednar are wonderful examples. They truly helped encourage and support me and many others to do our best. Hopefully to be an influence for good. The world does need more good--the tragedy of Sept 11 testifies of that. People can do amazing things but it starts with caring for others and wanting to help. There are so so many amazing, good, kind, compassionate people--all of different faiths. What really matters is what we do in our life and how we treat others. Just wanted to use my freedom to voice my opinion on this.Tornado Alleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02204165406927147147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-78128350854108241512011-09-17T08:28:07.345-07:002011-09-17T08:28:07.345-07:00@Ali, yeah, I think they just went on with plans a...@Ali, yeah, I think they just went on with plans as usual without even realizing how insensitive it would seem. Thanks for the comment!Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-83796868323972939182011-09-16T14:36:23.194-07:002011-09-16T14:36:23.194-07:00Wow, great post Donna. It must have felt surreal a...Wow, great post Donna. It must have felt surreal and confusing for those students. I find it creepy that they would harp on female modesty right then. Maybe it was just bad timing due to insensitivity like you suggested. Complete insulation from reality? Weird place, weird leadership. ~AliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-75768428607857563742011-09-16T13:25:56.154-07:002011-09-16T13:25:56.154-07:00@Kriss, that is high praise coming from such a sex...@Kriss, that is high praise coming from such a sexy atheist. Thanks, and you keep it up too.Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-78774666530893477942011-09-16T11:24:40.616-07:002011-09-16T11:24:40.616-07:00First of all buddy, UR made of awesome and don'...First of all buddy, UR made of awesome and don't ever change a thing. Second, UR made of awesome. 3rd women can what ever they want (as you know) and it is the bro-dude that must evolve (that is why being a feminist is so important) and lastly, UR made of awesome. I'm not sure if i've been here before. Keep it up homie.<br /><br />KrissAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446845644368676537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-3780570273369617432011-09-16T11:08:49.085-07:002011-09-16T11:08:49.085-07:00Kuri and CD, you're both right. There is so mu...Kuri and CD, you're both right. There is so much to object to in her talk. Thanks Kuri for adding that quote. Imagine how many LDS women may have thought she was referring to them (on top of dealing with 9/11!)Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-61320188672490838492011-09-16T10:49:15.787-07:002011-09-16T10:49:15.787-07:00What Kuri said. There was so much about her talk t...What Kuri said. There was so much about her talk that was offensive, it's like swimming in a deep poo sea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-50307242177574926472011-09-16T10:36:50.282-07:002011-09-16T10:36:50.282-07:00Along with the earring part -- which teaches us th...Along with the earring part -- which teaches us that instead of actually talking to people about something that concerns us ("So, what do you think about the whole two earring thing?"), we should sit in silent, self-righteous judgment of them -- this was my "favorite" part of her talk: <br /><br /><i>Last year my husband and I attended a fast and testimony meeting where a young woman stood to bear her testimony, profess her love for the Savior, and her desire for a temple marriage in a terribly immodest and inappropriate outfit. The skirt hung down around her hips; and the top she wore was not only tight, but short--it didn't meet the top of her skirt. Every time she moved, she revealed her bare back or her stomach. In my judgment, this is the height of hypocrisy.</i><br /><br />"The height of hypocrisy"? Seriously? Not "Despite her good intentions, she didn't really understand modesty" or something like that? Not even "She was a little off base"? No, she has to call that "the height of hypocrisy"? What a judgmental jerk. She and her husband deserve each other.kurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05945400924271622826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-10810931630385598152011-09-16T09:10:14.304-07:002011-09-16T09:10:14.304-07:00@CD yeah, Sister B. would fit right in on W&D....@CD yeah, Sister B. would fit right in on W&D. She could go-go dance alongside Eliza!Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-4539718584034469492011-09-16T08:59:35.393-07:002011-09-16T08:59:35.393-07:00@Zena, thanks, but you provide me with such inspir...@Zena, thanks, but you provide me with such inspiration yourself!<br /><br />@Ahab, indeed, on 9-Freakin'-11 of any year since, but especially 2001. I think folks like Bednar are so caught up in their "priesthood authority" that they have no sensitivity whatsoever.Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-74512486442677232652011-09-16T08:58:58.922-07:002011-09-16T08:58:58.922-07:00Simply elegant and nail on the head, Donna.
And t...Simply elegant and nail on the head, Donna.<br /><br />And that freaky dance she does in front of her mirror? Hilarious, grotesque, frightening. Sounds like a plot line for White and Delightsome ... or maybe a new character ... hmmmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-62233636889080003492011-09-16T08:52:19.822-07:002011-09-16T08:52:19.822-07:002001, not 2011. Sorry about the typo.2001, not 2011. Sorry about the typo.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-77551291544196094072011-09-16T08:51:05.883-07:002011-09-16T08:51:05.883-07:00(1) Talks about grandma's house and modest att...(1) Talks about grandma's house and modest attire. ON SEPTEMBER FREAKIN' ELEVENTH, 2011. What on earth is with these people!?<br /><br />(2) The misogyny and self-hatred in this woman's talk was glaring. Women should not have to be responsible for stupid men's behavior.<br /><br />(3) Instead of leaving, the men should have told the oglers to shut up. Real chivalrous behavior there, guys.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1884927711300537802.post-52224300024423645442011-09-16T08:49:44.615-07:002011-09-16T08:49:44.615-07:00"--I can only assume that Sister Bednar refer..."--I can only assume that Sister Bednar refers to the co-eds' "added luxury" of having roommates because she would never dream of performing this wildly erotic dance in front of her husband. (Lest he glimpse the hem of her temple garment and pass out from fright.)"<br /><br />Oh, Donna, you are the inspired one! Love this!Just Zenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852070305659271000noreply@blogger.com